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04 November 2007

Fama o biciklistima

Ne, nisam postao književni kritičar, ne bojte se. :)

Dakle, mi biciklisti, u svakodnevnom, nebasarijanskom smislu reči, smatramo se ljudima koji rade najmanje dve korisne stvari: popravljamo svoje zdravlje intenzivnom fizičkom aktivnošću, i 2. pozitivno utičemo na životnu sredinu jer za kretanje koristimo sopstvenu fizičku energiju, a ne naftu ili benzin, čime smanjujemo zagađenje okoline. Političari u zapadnim zemljama, kad hoće da pokažu svoju "ekološku svest", idu na posao biciklom. To je vrlo raširena pojava i među običnim svetom u zemljama poput Holandije ili Danske. Sledeći svetsku modu, i neki domaći političari su se pre nedelju-dve slikali kako voze bicikle po nekoj kiši (mislim da je bio "dan planete" ili tako nešto).

Ali, varate se ako mislite da i tako bezazlena stvar kao vožnja biciklom nema svoje negativne ekološke apekte. Pošto je "envajormentalizam" jedna krajnje mizantropska filozofija koja pretpostavlja da je i samo postojanje čoveka opasno po "okolinu", bilo je samo pitanje dana kada će i ova naivna, zdravorazumska dogma o korisnosti biciklizma biti osporena. I to se upravo desilo. Čovek nije (samo) nekakav opskurni ekološki frik, već profesor na Univerzitetu Pensilvanija, i upravo je otkrio da vožnja biciklom, nasuprot preovlađujućim površnim envajornmentalističkim gledištima, ima vrlo negativno dejstvo po životnu sredinu. Ona jeste da smanjuje emisije stakleničkih gasova, ali sa druge strane i poboljšava zdravlje onih koji voze bike, te time doprinosi pogoršavanju najvećeg prokletstva savremenog čovečanstva - nekontrolisanog porasta stanovništva.

Autor ima dva recepta kako stati u kraj ovoj biciklističkoj pošasti: ubediti ljude da umesto bicikla voze neke skutere na struju, jer time takođe ne emituju CO2, a istovremeno ne popravljaju sopstveno zdravlje i time tendiraju ka kraćem životu, čime doprinose ekološkoj ravnoteži i održivom razvoju. Drugi recept je da se pospeše kroz javne politike, kao protivteža biciklizmu, razna po zdravlje štetna ponašanja, tipa pušenje, uživanje teških droga, i vožnja automobila bez sigurnosnih pojaseva.

Ja, međutim za ovog profesora i sve slične ludake imam bolji predlog: da se oni lepo svi kolektivno poubijaju, i time svoje emisije stakleničkih gasova svedu na idealnu, nultu meru. Time će dati najefikasniji doprinos uravnoteženju naše planete.

Ako ste sumnjali u Reismanovu tezu o zelenom pokretu kao esenciji zla i antihumanizma, ova teorija uglednog profesora ekonomije sa Ivy League univerziteta je nažalost direktna demonstracija te teze.

Ja profesoru obećavam da ću nastaviti sa svojim biciklističkim uništavanjem održivog razvoja. Povećaću preko leta dozu sa 30 na 50 kilometara dnevno...Ako je verovati profesoru, svaka godina vožnje bicikla produžava život 10 dana. Pošto ja vozim skoro 30 godina (od najranijeg detinjstva), manje ili više redovno, time sam već za celu godinu produžio teror svog izdisanja ugljen-dioksida nad nezaštićenom planetom - gušterima, bubama, piranama i ledom na Grenlandu koji samo što nije počeo da se topi...Ako nastavim ovako, uništavaću planetu svojim postojanjem cele dve ili dve i po godine duže nego što je bilo nužno (a i ne pušim i ne drogiram se. Jedina nada je što zaista vozim kola bez pojasa...).

12 comments:

  1. Anonymous4/11/07 12:30

    sto vozis kola bez pojasa? da im pokazes?

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  2. Tu je još i trošak vode zbog više tuširanja, koje je kritično za opstanak vrste. Zatim upotreba više dezedoransa koja ubija ozonski omotač. Zatim trošiš više kalorija i stoga jedeš više hrane, a deca u africi gladuju. Ovaj tvoj profesor je odradio polovičnu analizu, i stoga je odgovoran za uništavanje planete.

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  3. vozim bez pojasa jer me steze i nervira me.

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  4. Na drugi pogled, ovo može da se čita i kao vrlo dobra liberalna kritika envajromentlizma. Jer njegova poenta u krajnjoj liniji je da politike kao što su podsticanje upotrebe bicikla imaju i nepredvidive efekte, zbog kojih su ustvari neefikasne ili kontraproduktivne.
    Ako ljudi vole da voze auto, pustite ih da voze auto, jer ako ih terate da voze bicikl (porezima, podsticajima, reklamama), ustvari ne postižete ono što ste hteli.

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  5. Ne verujem da se to u bilo kom smislu moze nazvati "liberalnom" kritikom envajornmentalizma, jer on eksplicite kaze da suvise ljudi na zemlji predstavlaj problem. A to je upravo jedna od stalnih maltuzijanskih opsesija envajormentalizma, i to onog najradikalnijeg. Ne znam ni jednog liberala koji zagovara drzavnu kontrolu porasta stanovnistva, u "humanoj", "nehumanoj, anibiciklistickoj ili bilo kojoj cetvrtoj varijanti.

    Naravno, moze se to nazvati u nekom smislu imanentnom kritikom mainstream envajornmentalizma, protkanu ekonomskim cost-befit zargonom, to da. Ali ja ne bih povezivao koriscenje mainstream ekonomskog zargona za podrsku radikalnom (jos radikalnijem od kritikovanog) envajornmentalizmu, sa nekakvim liberalnim stavom.

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  6. Ali, stvarno, koliko lud moras da budes, pa da kazes da je NEGATIVAN eksterni efekat voznje bicikla to sto produzava zivot?

    I, sto je jos gore, tip je profesor na biznis skoli, za koje mislim da su inace malo razumniji od ostalih.

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  7. Anonymous5/11/07 14:02

    evo, ovo sam danas skinula sa bloomberga, mislila sam da bi nekome moglo biti zanimljivo:

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    BN 11/04 Carbon Traders Create Cheap Credits in China for Sale in Europe


    By Stephanie Baker-Said
    Nov. 5 (Bloomberg) -- One early October day in London, a
    financier named James Cameron was poring over a poster-size map
    of China inside his offices near the River Thames.
    Dotting the map were 20 or so sticky labels, similar to
    small Post-it notes. There were pink ones, blue ones, green
    ones, yellow ones -- each marking a spot where Cameron's
    company, Climate Change Capital, is wagering tens of millions of
    dollars.
    Cameron doesn't invest in stocks or bonds. What he invests
    in is carbon dioxide (CO2), the principal cause of global
    warming. In return for curbing emissions in, say, China, Cameron
    can sell the right to pump CO2 into the air in Europe. The going
    price: about 17 euros ($24) per metric ton.
    Since co-founding Climate Change Capital in 2003, Cameron
    and his business partner, Mark Woodall, have turned their
    company into a powerhouse in the burgeoning global market in
    greenhouse gases. Driven by the Kyoto Protocol on global
    warming, an accord Cameron helped write, this corner of the
    derivatives arena is growing as never before.
    Global warming may present the greatest challenge humans
    have ever faced. For Cameron, part of a new breed of climate-
    change capitalists, it also offers something else: a chance to
    make money. Whether this quest for profit will avert the
    potentially catastrophic consequences of a warming Earth is, at
    this point, unknowable. One possible alternative to trading
    would be to tax emissions, thereby making it costly for
    companies to keep polluting.

    Forerunner: Acid Rain

    Al Gore, who won the Nobel Peace Prize on Oct. 12 for his
    work on climate change, has championed trading as one way to
    curb emissions of CO2, whose molecular structure traps heat near
    the Earth's surface. These markets enable power companies,
    refineries and factories to buy and sell the right to pollute
    once regulators cap emissions levels. Supporters of trading
    point to the success of the 12-year-old U.S. market for sulfur
    dioxide (SO2), a primary cause of acid rain. Since this system
    began, SO2 emissions from power plants have dropped 41 percent
    below 1980 levels.
    The U.S. has fallen behind Europe in trading CO2 allowances
    -- ``carbon,'' in trader-speak -- because U.S. President George
    W. Bush has opted out of the Kyoto Protocol, saying its strict
    limits on emissions would prove too costly to U.S. companies.
    As a result, London rather than New York has become the
    world capital of carbon finance. As part of the Kyoto accord,
    the European Union created a single market for CO2 rights on

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    Jan. 1, 2005. Trading has exploded. Last year, the carbon market
    worldwide grew threefold to $30 billion, according to the World
    Bank.

    $565 Billion Market

    Investors have poured about $12 billion into funds devoted
    to pollution, according to London-based research firm New Carbon
    Finance. Half of that money is managed from the British capital.
    In the U.S., where polluters can trade CO2 rights among
    themselves if they choose, California Governor Arnold
    Schwarzenegger is pushing to create a market that could one day
    dwarf Europe's. By 2020, the global carbon market could swell to
    $565 billion, according to estimates from Oslo-based research
    firm Point Carbon.
    So the great carbon rush is on. In January, Morgan Stanley
    bought 38 percent of MGM International, a Miami-based company
    that invests in emissions-reduction projects, as part of a $3
    billion push into the carbon market. In June, Credit Suisse
    Group bought 10 percent of Dublin-based EcoSecurities Group Plc
    and said it may lend that company 1 billion euros for pollution
    investments. In August, a unit of London-based hedge fund giant
    Man Group Plc raised $382 million for a fund specializing in
    greenhouse gases at Chinese coal plants. And Salt Lake City-
    based Blue Source LLC, a startup run by two Utah entrepreneurs,
    has quietly amassed the biggest bank of pollution credits in the
    U.S.

    Expecting `Big Returns'

    So much money is pouring into this arena that some
    investors may not make as much profit as they think, says Martin
    Whittaker, a director at MissionPoint Capital Partners, a
    Norwalk, Connecticut-based private equity firm that manages a
    $335 million growth fund aimed at clean energy and the
    environment.
    ``A lot of investors have piled in expecting big returns in
    a nascent market,'' Whittaker says. ``As in any investment, you
    get a lot of capital chasing returns and it tends to depress the
    margins.''
    Cameron, 46, and Woodall, 45, run Climate Change Capital
    out of a glass office tower near the south bank of the Thames,
    next to the headquarters of London Mayor Ken Livingstone. The
    company, which has about 120 employees, projects an eco-friendly
    image. The walls are covered with bamboo and the floors are
    blanketed with gray carpet made from recycled fabric. The coffee
    machine is full of fair-trade beans. Tables and worktops are
    made from recycled plastic yogurt containers. A series of
    multicolor tiles use English words and Chinese characters to
    proclaim the company's motto: ``Wealth Worth Having.''

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    Carbon's Goldman Sachs

    Cameron, who is vice chairman, and Woodall, chief executive
    officer, have big plans for their company. Climate Change
    Capital is already financing projects that it says will
    eliminate 70 million metric tons of greenhouse gases. That's
    roughly equivalent to the amount of CO2 Denmark sends into the
    sky each year. Cameron and Woodall predict that assets under
    management will swell to $10 billion within five years. They've
    pushed Climate Change Capital to manage money, finance clean-air
    projects and advise on mergers and acquisitions -- in other
    words, to become a sort of Goldman Sachs of carbon.
    In September, the duo flew to New York, where the UN was
    holding a meeting on global warming, to rub elbows with Gore,
    former U.S. President Bill Clinton and Hollywood star Brad Pitt.
    Their latest project is to raise $1 billion for a fund that will
    invest in low-energy buildings. ``We're just babies,'' Cameron
    says. ``We've just begun.''

    Luring Investors

    Climate Change Capital has already lured deep-pocketed
    investors. In 2005, New York-based Och-Ziff Capital Management
    LLC, the hedge fund firm founded by former Goldman Sachs Group
    Inc. trader Daniel Och, bought 20 percent of the company,
    Woodall says. A unit of Man Group has bought 10 percent. MSM
    Capital Partners, part of an investment firm started by
    Priceline.com Inc. co-founder Jesse Fink, also bought in.
    MSM recently sold its shares, more than doubling its
    initial investment, says Whittaker of MissionPoint, which was
    started by Fink and Mark Schwartz, a former CEO of Soros Fund
    Management LLC. ``It was a tremendously successful investment,''
    Whittaker says, declining to elaborate.

    Threat to Crops

    The money keeps pouring in. In 2006, Climate Change Capital
    raised more than 800 million euros for a new carbon investment
    fund. More than two-thirds of that came from the Dutch pension
    giants ABP and PGGM, which together manage more than $425
    billion. Otto van der Wyck, the founder of BC Partners Ltd., one
    of Europe's biggest buyout firms, became chairman of Climate
    Change Capital in 2004 and has helped raise the firm's profile.
    For now, Climate Change Capital has the edge in carbon
    investing, says PGGM money manager Jelle Beenen. ``They
    represented the first serious strategy in emission rights,'' he
    says.
    There's big money at stake -- for everyone. Nicholas Stern,
    former chief economist of the World Bank, last year forecast

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    that climate change might cost the global economy $9.6 trillion
    by 2100. A rise of just 2-3 degrees Celsius in the average world
    temperature might displace 200 million people, devastate food
    crops and shave 3 percent off the global economic output, Stern
    concluded in an October 2006 report prepared for the U.K.
    Treasury.

    Cap-and-Trade

    Whatever the scope of the problem, trading in pollution
    permits may or may not be the solution. So far, trading CO2
    rights has done little to curb emissions in Europe, according to
    Open Europe, a London-based think tank. The group is backed by
    U.K. executives such as Michael Spencer, CEO of broker-dealer
    ICAP Plc, and Brian Williamson, former chairman of the London
    International Financial Futures Exchange, which is now part of
    Euronext NV.
    European emissions rose 0.8 percent from 2005 to '06,
    according to Open Europe, which has urged the EU to let member
    countries decide how to reduce emissions on their own.
    Europe has adopted a so-called cap-and-trade market similar
    to the one the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency created in
    1995 for SO2. For each year through 2007, EU governments granted
    about 12,000 factories and power plants the right to emit a
    total of about 2.2 billion tons of CO2 -- the ``cap'' in cap and
    trade. The EU also permitted the companies to buy and sell
    allowances -- the ``trade'' in cap and trade. If companies think
    they might exceed their annual CO2 allowance, they can buy
    rights from companies that pollute less. Under the Kyoto accord,
    the UN has issued similar credits from emission-reduction
    projects in 49 countries.

    Importing Cheap Credits

    This dual system enables European corporations to buy
    indulgences from those in developing countries rather than mend
    their polluting ways, up to varying limits. It's simply cheaper
    to reduce emissions in, say, China, than it is in Europe. The EU
    has allowed European companies to import too many cheap credits,
    according to the World Wildlife Fund. The result is that some of
    these companies are doing less than they could to reduce
    emissions, according to a June WWF report.
    ``You're sending a signal to companies in Europe that they
    can carry on investing in high-carbon infrastructure by
    offsetting reductions,'' says Kirsty Clough, a climate-change
    policy analyst at the WWF in London. ``That locks us onto a
    high-carbon path for decades.'' A better approach would be to
    prevent European companies from using so many credits from
    developing countries, Clough says.


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    `Birmingham or Beijing'

    Cameron says the system is helping to put China's fast-
    growing economy on a lower carbon path. ``A ton of carbon is a
    ton of carbon,'' he says. ``It doesn't matter if you reduce it
    in Birmingham or Beijing.''
    European CO2 trading has enriched big utilities. At recent
    prices, the allowances that EU governments have granted to
    companies largely for free for 2008 carried a combined market
    value of 43.1 billion euros.
    For investors such as Climate Change Capital, the potential
    rewards -- and risks -- have been enormous. The price of 2007
    CO2 rights plummeted after traders concluded that the EU had
    flooded the market with allowances. The plunge prompted the EU
    to tighten emissions caps from 2008 to '12 and reduce the number
    of allowances it issues. Carbon investors and traders applaud
    that decision, and with reason: Fewer credits mean higher
    prices.
    Allowances for 2008 were trading at about 21.65 euros on
    Oct. 31. Some EU members, including the Czech Republic and
    Poland, have threatened to sue the European Commission, saying
    their pollution caps are too stringent.

    `A Lost Decade'

    The question is, where do prices go from here?
    Oslo-based Point Carbon predicts that prices will rise to
    as much as 30 euros in 2008 and '09 as more utilities start
    buying allowances in order to comply with Kyoto rules.
    Catrinus Jepma, professor of energy and sustainability at
    the University of Groningen in the Netherlands, says they'll
    plummet as credits from developing countries deluge the European
    market. Since 2005, the United Nations Clean Development
    Mechanism has issued about 85 million Kyoto credits. That number
    is likely to surge to 2.5 billion by 2012, according to the UN
    agency.
    So far, the European market has been a costly mistake,
    Jepma says. ``The Kyoto Protocol period is almost a lost
    decade,'' he says. The idea behind Kyoto credits was to place a
    high price on polluting. Instead, an oversupply of credits means
    the price to pollute could stay low, he says.

    HFC-23 Gas

    Back at Climate Change Capital, Cameron points to a yellow
    tab affixed to his map of China. The sticker marks chemical
    maker China Fluoro Technology Co., located in Shandong Province.
    China Fluoro Technology exemplifies the potential for profit --
    and controversy -- in the pollution market. The Chinese company

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    makes refrigerant gases. One byproduct of that process is a
    potent greenhouse gas called HFC-23. Pound for pound, HFC-23
    traps 11,700 times more solar heat in the atmosphere than CO2.
    Because China doesn't regulate HFC-23 emissions, China Fluoro
    can belch countless tons of gas into the air with impunity. (The
    U.S. doesn't regulate HFC-23 emissions, either.)
    That's where Climate Change Capital comes in. Cameron and
    Woodall have helped devise and finance a system that captures
    the gas and prevents it from swirling into the atmosphere. In
    return, Climate Change Capital takes a cut of the emissions
    credits that the UN awards China Fluoro Technology under the
    Kyoto Protocol.

    Factory `Subsidy'

    The project will generate 23.5 million tons of carbon-
    equivalent credits over six years. At current prices, China
    Fluoro credits are worth as much as 399 million euros. The
    result is that China Fluoro stands to make more money selling
    its pollution credits than it does selling its refrigerants. And
    factories in Europe and Japan can buy the credits from China
    rather than curbing pollution themselves.
    Some investors have steered clear of HFC-23 projects
    altogether. ``This is supposed to be about clean development,''
    says Lionel Fretz, who co-founded Climate Change Capital and now
    runs London rival Carbon Capital Markets. ``It's not meant to be
    a subsidy to refrigerant factories in China.''
    Cameron says that, over time, the invisible hand of the
    marketplace will reduce greenhouse gas levels and help head off
    climate change.
    ``Right now the market is doing exactly what it should do -
    -it's going after as many tons as possible at the lowest
    possible cost and taking them out,'' Cameron says.

    Chernobyl Effect

    Cameron and Woodall came to the carbon market from
    different corners. Cameron is the policy brain, Woodall the
    financial brain. The lanky Cameron, who's half English and half
    Australian, grew up in Lebanon and Singapore. He studied
    international law at Cambridge University in the 1980s.
    In 1986, he became interested in environmental law after
    seeing plumes of radioactive smoke billowing across borders from
    the Chernobyl nuclear accident in Ukraine. That prompted him to
    help set up the Center for International Environmental Law based
    in Washington. He used the nonprofit organization to make a name
    for himself negotiating the Kyoto Protocol on behalf of the
    Alliance of Small Island States, a 39-nation coalition he helped
    to build pro bono. He later started the climate change practice
    at international law firm Baker & McKenzie in London.

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    Johannesburg Rendezvous

    In 2002, Cameron made his first stab at setting up a
    business to implement Kyoto. He tried to form a sustainable
    investment group, a coalition of different companies and
    organizations that would manage funds to invest in the emerging
    low-carbon economy. He thought he had the European Investment
    Bank on board to fund his dream. Instead, one of its senior
    bankers shot down the idea, saying it would be like asking a
    fish to ride a bicycle.
    Cameron didn't give up. At the end of 2002, he bumped into
    Woodall on the sidelines of the UN's sustainable development
    summit in Johannesburg. The idea for Climate Change Capital was
    born.
    When he met Cameron, Woodall was a serial entrepreneur who
    was integrating a technology investment company he founded into
    Pi Capital, a London private equity firm. Woodall, whose
    grandfather was the chairman of British Steel during World War
    II, stumbled onto environmental causes by accident back in the
    1980s, when he set up his first company selling products to help
    factories clean up oil and chemicals. A former British Army
    officer educated at the elite U.K. boarding school Wellington
    College, Woodall put his first company into administration when
    the pound crashed in 1992.

    Garden `Hedging'

    ``I thought hedging was something you did in your garden,''
    he says.
    After earning a Master of Business Administration from the
    U.K.'s Cranfield University School of Management, Woodall tried
    to get a job at a venture capital company. No one would hire
    him, he says. He decided instead to start what would become
    Impax Capital Corp., which invested in renewable energy. Woodall
    exited the business in 2000 when Impax went public. Nowadays, he
    drives to the office in an electric G-Wiz car, made in India by
    Reva Electric Car Co., from his home in the south London
    neighborhood of Stockwell.
    From the start, Woodall and Cameron saw opportunity in
    climate change. They raised 1 million pounds ($2 million) from
    what Woodall describes as ``friends.'' Cameron remortgaged his
    house to invest in the venture, and Woodall also dug into his
    own pockets. They were joined by Gareth Hughes and Anthony
    White, fellow founding partners who run the firm's corporate
    development and advisory businesses.

    `Terrified' of Failure

    ``I put my entire life and guts in the business, terrified

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    it was going to go belly up,'' Cameron says.
    The pair soon raised more than $100 million for their first
    carbon fund to invest in rights to emit greenhouse gases. By
    2006, Climate Change Capital was readying a fund 10 times that
    size.
    ``They've raised the money very swiftly,'' says Nick Wood,
    head of Man Investments' environmental strategies group in
    London. ``They've been around the longest in a high-profile
    sense.''
    Cameron says the firm is breaking even. Climate Change
    Holdings Ltd. reported a loss of 426,100 pounds in the year
    ended on Aug. 31, 2006, compared with a loss of 1.6 million
    pounds the previous year, according to the most-recent filings
    with Companies House.

    Focus on China

    In September, the firm announced it had raised 200 million
    euros more for a new private equity fund targeting clean
    technology, energy efficiency and waste recovery across Europe.
    Investors included AlpInvest Partners NV, the Dutch private
    equity firm with 35 billion euros under management, and HSBC
    Holdings Plc.
    The bulk of Climate Change Capital's funds are still
    invested in China, which last year surpassed the U.S. as the
    biggest emitter of CO2. The firm has been a big player in the
    market to check HFC-23 emissions.
    HFC-23 projects accounted for almost half the credits
    issued by the UN Clean Development Mechanism through the end of
    October. Money flowing from the sale of these credits could be
    up to 10 times higher than the cost to curb the emissions,
    according to an August UN report.
    It would cost about 100 million euros to install
    incinerators at the 17 refrigerant producers in the developing
    world, says Michael Wara, a researcher at Stanford University.
    Yet, at current prices, the 40 million credits issued for HFC-23
    projects are worth about 880 million euros. ``These projects
    have distorted the market,'' Wara says.

    Wind, Biomass

    Cameron and Woodall defend their work. China taxes profits
    from HFC-23 projects at 65 percent and puts the receipts into a
    special fund to finance clean energy, Woodall says. Besides,
    without Climate Change Capital, the greenhouse gas at China
    Fluoro Technology would just end up in the atmosphere.
    These days, Climate Change Capital is expanding into wind
    farms, biomass power plants and other sorts of green projects.
    The challenge will be to keep on delivering high returns.
    The challenge will be to keep on delivering high returns.

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    ``There can be no trade-off,'' Cameron says. ``None of
    this, `We're terribly nice people trying to save the world;
    therefore, we can perform averagely.''' Cameron and Woodall say
    they want to do good. They just want to make sure they do well,
    too.

    --With reporting by Mathew Carr in London. Editor: Gillen
    (pfh/scc)

    To contact the reporter on this story:
    Stephanie Baker-Said in London at +44-20-7330-7558 or
    ssaid@bloomberg.net.

    To contact the editor responsible for this story:
    Paul Horvitz in Boston at +1-617-210-4640 or
    phorvitz@bloomberg.net.





























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  8. Moguce je da je zanimljivo, ali je prilicno nepregledno. Evo kako dodati link u komentar. Treba ukucati:

    Ime linka

    Umesto link, iskopirati link, a umesto ime linka upisati bilo sta. Moze i "bilo sta". :)

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  9. Sad sam ja zeznuo stvar, jer kad sam ukucao sta treba, to je prevedeno u link. Da probam ovako

    "Ime linka"

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  10. Anonymous5/11/07 17:21

    to je sa bloombergove masine. mogu da ti posaljem link ako imas nalog na bloombergu.

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  11. Anonymous5/11/07 17:22

    ovako, sve sto mozes da uradis je da kopiras u notepad (neformatirano).

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Da biste komentarisali potrebno je da imate Google ili OpenID nalog. Budući da otvaranje novog naloga ne zahteva više od 2 minuta, a kad ga jednom otvorite ostaje zauvek, smatramo da to nije velika prepreka.

Napominjemo da će uvredljivi komentari biti obrisani.